Right Philosophy, Wrong Application

Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 5.8.10 | January 14, 2014 |

English; Salem, Tamil Nadu, India

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>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.3.7 — Los Angeles, September 13, 1972

I remember discussing this very same point with Gokula Candra Prabhu when we were in Salem, and the conclusion was that these forms do exist eternally, but from the above statement by Srila Prabhupada it seems to be otherwise. Could you clarify that please so that I may understand this properly?

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