Do Devotees Get Influenced by the Three Modes of Material Nature?
ASK BVKS | May 1, 2016 |
English; Vellore, Tamil Nadu, India
Do devotees get influenced by the three modes of material nature?
ANSWER by HH Bhakti Vikāsa Swami:
“Do devotees get influenced by the three material modes of nature? Well, do you? You are a devotee. Do you get influenced?
Sometimes. You are doing better than most of us.
māṁ ca yo 'vyabhicāreṇa
sa guṇān samatītyaitān
Kṛṣṇa says: “One who engages in unflinching, unalloyed … ”
What’s the word Prabhupāda uses?
“Undistracted devotional service to Me transcends the modes of material nature, becomes completely fixed on the transcendental platform.” Unalloyed. “One who engages in My unalloyed devotional service.” (BG 14.26)
So, yeah. We are also influenced by the modes of material nature, but we should practise Kṛṣṇa consciousness very seriously and then gradually we will become free from that influence.”
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Question: About Srila Prabhupada, we hear devotees quoting Caitanya Mangala where Lord Caitanya says "I will send my senapati bhakta"; (there is also the prediction of Bhaktivinoda Thakura). On the other hand Srila Prabhupada says about one astrologer who told him that he was a physician in his previous life; his inclination to play a physician in… Expand>
About Srila Prabhupada, we hear devotees quoting Caitanya Mangala where Lord Caitanya says "I will send my senapati bhakta"; (there is also the prediction of Bhaktivinoda Thakura).
On the other hand Srila Prabhupada says about one astrologer who told him that he was a physician in his previous life; his inclination to play a physician in a children's play; and the reason of coming back (not BTG) – the killing of the snake in order to make a medicine from its poison.
The 2 info we reconciled but we need also the opinion of other devotees.
Namely, just as Drona and Dhara went into the bodies of their source the nitya sparsadas Vasudeva and Devaki, similarly Srila Prabhupada should have had an expansion that became one with its origin, the senapati bhakta predicted by Lord Caitanya.
What do you think?
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Question: I have a new kind of service in our yatra since October 2011 – arranging children’s programs. The idea of it appeared last year. During Sunday programs the children are left to their own devices. While the parents are taking part in kirtana and listening to a class the children run about, make a noise, disturb the lecturer.… Expand>
I have a new kind of service in our yatra since October 2011 – arranging children’s programs. The idea of it appeared last year. During Sunday programs the children are left to their own devices. While the parents are taking part in kirtana and listening to a class the children run about, make a noise, disturb the lecturer.
Unfortunately parents don’t always pay attention to the kids and their behavior in the temple. Sometimes it caused the irritation of other devotees. Actually it was not clear for me how to hold these programs and what content they should have.
I was in Moscow last year in September and made acquaintances with a mataji who serves as a coordinator of children’s programs. She explained to me the way They organize such programs in Moscow yatra. After returning back home I asked the advice of Advaita-patni dd, Kalindi-priya dd and the devotees who have children. They gave me their blessings and I started my new service.
Children’s programs are held once a week on Saturdays and last about one and half hour. Children are divided into two groups: those who are 2-6 years old and those who are 7-10 years old. At first we arrange the program for the little children and then for the older ones. We learn to offer obeisances to the Deities and chant Maha mantra for 2 or 3 times, read about Krishna, play, draw and learn how one should behave himself in the temple. The little children offer their pictures and applications to the Deities. Then they chant Prasada Sevaya mantra and take prasadam, after that they wash the floor in the altar room.
The older children offer their obeisances to the Deities and chant one round of Maha mantra. We learn together the following topics: what is the Veda, what piety means, the qualities that pious people have, the law of God, the manners of behavior in the temple. The girls attending Sunday programs have their own Deities of Gopal and they are taught to make garlands. We plan to teach them to sew dresses for Deities and play musical instruments.
They also chant prasada-sevaya mantra, take prasadam and wash the floor in the altar room. The older children take care of the little ones during Sunday programs (dispense prasadam, help to wash hands). The adult devotees staged a New Year performance for the children about Father Frost (Santa) and his granddaughter seeking for Krishna. When we celebrated the Appearance Day of Lord Nityananda and Lord Caitanya the children had their own abhiseka for the Deities of Gopal. The older children rang the bell and made acaman. The little children recited poems about Krishna during the celebration of Lord Caitanya’s Appearance Day, the older ones showed a performance about a brahmana who prepared a feast at Jagannatha Misra’s house and Nimai ate that offering without permission. We are planning to stage a performance for Lord Nrisimha’s Appearance Day which all the children would take part in. The adult devotees try to involve our little vaisnavas in the ceremony of the Deities Greeting and kirtana at Sunday programs. The upbringing of children mostly depends on the way parents behave and spend time together and what knowledge they impart to them. That’s why we arrange classes for the parents concerning the topic of child upbringing.
Guru Maharaja, in one of your lectures answering the question “How to bring up a Krishna conscious child,“ you told that one cannot enforce children to become devotees. We try to follow this instruction and involve our children indevotional service in a very gentle way and they attend programs, take part in celebrations, help the adult devotees with a great pleasure. There are 25 children in our yatra. However only half of them attend children’s programs. They are the children whose parents are active in devotional service and take part in Sunday programs.
Unfortunately there is not enough literature about philosophy adapted for children. I have a lack of knowledge myself, but my tutor Advaita-patni Mataji and other devotees support me.
Guru Maharaja, I’d like to ask for your advice concerning the following topics:
- How should we arrange the work with the parents?
- How do we act properly in training and upbringing our children?
- How should we awake the interest of those parents whose children do not attend programs?
- What should be avoided in our cooperation with parents and their children?
- There are a lot of films and cartoons about Krishna, can we use them in our programs arranged for the children?
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For a very long time, I have felt very nervous about joining devotees on Harinama or book distribution. Honestly, I feel a bit embarrassed at the thought of my friends seeing me with devotees, or seeing me distributing books or seeing me in a Tilaka etc. I am worried people will think this guy is a nut or a fool! I am worried they will judge me and I will lose my so-called social standing.
Right from my childhood, I have been a very shy and lonely person and I am always easily embarrassed. I grew up with severe inferiority complex in my childhood. Both my parents were completely uneducated, not respected, not well off etc. They passed that over to me. That low self esteem has stayed with me. Hence I am very scared and nervous of doing anything public.
Maharaja, I am very much worried that this nature of mine will interfere with my future service to you. How do I fix this issue? I really really want to make progress and I will follow any order you give me here to correct this situation.^ Show less
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