Devotee (2): Srila Prabhupada, you are seeing Krsna at every moment. Does this mean you are seeing Krsna in His two-armed form playing the flute at every moment?

Prabhupada: What do you think?

Devotee (2): I don't know, Srila Prabhupada.

Prabhupada: Then? "Seeing" means Krsna as He is. That's all. Santah sadaiva hrdayesu vilokayanti [Bs. 5.38]. You do not read Brahma-samhita? Do you read?

Devotee (2): Yes, Prabhupada. What you have of the Brahma-samhita in your books.

Prabhupada: Brahma-samhita it is said, santah sadaiva hrdayesu vilokayanti. Those who are saintly persons, they always see Krsna within his heart. Everyone can see if he tries. Why you and me? Anyone can see. Krsna is open to everyone. But He is not open to the rascals. That is Krsna's distinguish… Naham prakasah sarvasya yoga-maya-samavrtah [Bg. 7.25]. He is open to everyone, but not to all others, only to the devotee.

Devotee (3): Srila Prabhupada, the Paramatma feature is in the heart.

Prabhupada: Yes.

Devotee (3): And the pure devotee, does he see the Paramatma feature, or does he see…?

Prabhupada: When you see Krsna, you see Paramatma, Brahman, everything. Brahmeti paramatmeti bhagavan iti sabdyate [SB 1.2.11]. If you see… Just like when you see the sun, you see sunlight also. The sun… We see the sun globe, the sun light, simultaneously. Nobody says, "I am seeing the sun but not the sunshine." Is it? [laughter] He is seeing everything. He is seeing everything.

Devotee (3): But does he focus his mind upon the two-armed…?

Prabhupada: There is no question of focus or no focus. One who sees Krsna, he sees everything. Yasmin vijnate sarvam evam vijnatam bhavanti [Mundaka Upanisad 1.3]. There is no question of imagination. This is fact.

> Room Conversation — July 31, 1975, New Orleans