Srutakirti: The other day you said that Govinda dasi, she had asked you if in general that we would have to take birth in India before going back home, and you said yes. So we were wondering [laughter] how that's possible that we have to take birth in India. Because we see that they're not very strict Vaisnavas there.

Prabhupada: The land is there. Just like this land, Vaisnava is there. This land is not meant for spiritual culture, but still the Vaisnavas are there. Similarly, in India… No, there are many Vaisnavas there. The mass of people, they are all Vaisnava.

Paramahamsa: So by joining this movement we come to the platform where we can take birth in India in a nice brahmana family? [laughter]

Prabhupada: No, you can go directly also, if you want to finish your business. Sucinam srimatam gehe [Bg. 6.41]. This is a consideration, who, one who fails in executing. But if you become successful, then you go directly where Krsna is there. Krsna is there in some universe. So those who are completely liberated, they go to that universe. Just like when Krsna comes here, in each and every universe there is a Vrndavana. So in that Vrndavana one takes birth. Then goes to original Vrndavana. [break]

Paramahamsa: Those who are not able to maintain the Krsna consciousness principle, then they may have to go to India next lifetime.

Prabhupada: Yes. Srimatam, srimatam sucinam. So srimatam, you can get here. Srimatam means rich — rich family. Here you get many families, Ford family. But srimatam and sucinam. So if you are creating so many brahmanas, so if this cult is permanent, then there will be many brahmana family here also.

Morning Walk — June 10, 1975, Honolulu