Lt. Mozee (Chicago police officer): I understood the spiritual leader had some ideas on how to prevent crime, how to do these things. I might inquire after he gives his ideas.

Prabhupada: It is not idea; it is fact that one man is very pious and one man is very vicious. What is the difference? The difference is: one is dirty in his heart and one is pure in his heart. So if you keep people dirty, then there will be crimes. This is the sign that the general people, they are dirty. So you have to purify the dirty things, diseased condition. Then things will be all right. So our simplest process is to assemble in congregation and chant the holy name of God. Then dirty things will go away.

So if you want to stop crime, then you have to arrange for mass sankirtana. That is our movement. Gather people as large as can be possible and congregationally chant the holy name of God. Then it will be all right.

(Conversation, 8 July 1976)